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« on: January 17, 2007, 05:56:23 PM »

I dont know what happend to my ROTGB graphics thread so anyways I finally got around to making a proton beam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1QRPaiKCDk&NR
go easy on it will ya
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 07:25:46 AM »

Seems like a good start to me.  My first suggestion would be, have the lightning bolt wrap more around the neutrona beam if possible.  My other suggestion would be to take your raw footage in better lighting as the graininess of the image will tend to make your effect stick out, as opposed to looking like it is part of the real shot.  I'm sure the compression needed for YouTube doesn't help much either...

Out of curiosity, what program(s) are you using and how are you going about the process?

Anyway, just offering some constructive criticism for your next attempt.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 09:08:25 AM »

It looks like crap, sorry but its true.

It;s not just the footage he used, the beam looks wrong somehow. here's my advice: use two paint layers, one a bit thicker then the other, then make the bigger one orange and the smaller one yellow, gaussian blur both and go to the next frame and repeat, with a different look.

Sure, it's a pain in the ass doing it frame by frame but the results can get amazing.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 10:55:06 AM »

Yeah, the webcam isn't helping you any.  Unless you apply a crappy webcam filter over the completed effect, as well.

I would definitely say that the beam needs to be thinner.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 06:15:22 PM »

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Seems like a good start to me.  My first suggestion would be, have the lightning bolt wrap more around the neutrona beam if possible.  My other suggestion would be to take your raw footage in better lighting as the graininess of the image will tend to make your effect stick out, as opposed to looking like it is part of the real shot.  I'm sure the compression needed for YouTube doesn't help much either...

Out of curiosity, what program(s) are you using and how are you going about the process?

Anyway, just offering some constructive criticism for your next attempt.
this was a combo of photoshop and black screen and black screen, and in the movies the lightning dosnt actually wrap around the beam that was RGB that had it.

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It looks like crap, sorry but its true.

It;s not just the footage he used, the beam looks wrong somehow. here's my advice: use two paint layers, one a bit thicker then the other, then make the bigger one orange and the smaller one yellow, gaussian blur both and go to the next frame and repeat, with a different look.

Sure, it's a pain in the ass doing it frame by frame but the results can get amazing.
It looks like shit not crap SHIT and thanks for the advise.

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Yeah, the webcam isn't helping you any.  Unless you apply a crappy webcam filter over the completed effect, as well.

I would definitely say that the beam needs to be thinner.
I used a digital camera (same difference) and I know it needs to be thinner Im working on it.

thanks for the constructive criticism.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 09:44:32 PM »

Omni,

There's a ton of detail that goes into making a convincing stream. Take some clips of GB and GB II and watch the frame by frame to see what's going on. Also in the GB DVD sepcial features, they show various composites of a stream and explain a little about it.

Also you have some black around the stream edges...looks like some alpha isues.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 10:39:10 PM »

I used black screen which wasnt such a good idea cause it shows....the way Im doing it now is Im saving each frame putting them into photoshop then put em to my editor and mess with the time code
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 03:52:28 PM »

Magix's Alpha/Black screen effect isnt to good (not sure if you used that but just in case, its not good). Try a different tone or messing with the transparency.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 05:08:08 PM »

sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but....

I got a copy of Adobe After Effects CS3 so I decided to make a new proton beam with it.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RazorBladeFilmz

its still processing though

Its not very good since this is the first time I have used AE.

Any suggestions or insults?

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 11:54:49 PM »

Lower the optimacy on slimer and add some glow and that looks awsome.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2007, 09:38:52 AM »

I think the term you're looking for is opacity.


Anyway, it's getting a lot better.  I would also lower the lens flare considerably.  It makes it nearly impossible to see your stream.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 08:28:17 PM »

2 months of After Effects gave me this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmoEvVg9kAw

sorry for the crappy quality, it makes the beam hard to see
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 09:13:38 PM »

Getting better. 

I'll give you a hint, though.  There's no "proton stream" effect setting in After Effects.  If you want the beam to jump around like you see in the movies, you're going to have to animate it by hand.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2007, 06:55:07 PM »

point takin


made this one from scratch, its based on a lightsaber tut
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2007, 08:11:44 PM »

Getting better. 

I'll give you a hint, though.  There's no "proton stream" effect setting in After Effects.  If you want the beam to jump around like you see in the movies, you're going to have to animate it by hand.

Hank is partially right, at first every shot was 100% hand animated, however when you watch the ending of the movie, those were done differently saving hours, but unfortunitly every frame was still hand tweaked. But to give you an idea, it used to take roughly 1 hour for 1 second, towards the end it was probably 15 minutes per second.

Your stream is looking great, however the lightning is looking a little rough.
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